Last ever update (how to determine?)

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Last ever update (how to determine?)

Post by gerry666uk » 2021/11/12 19:22:51

I'm trying to work out what will be the last ever DNF update before it switches to stream.
I'm guessing it might be when it switches to CentOS 8.5, but what if there's a point release shortly after.
At some point, repos will suddenly jump to stream (which I don't want).

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Re: Last ever update (how to determine?)

Post by TrevorH » 2021/11/12 20:00:09

RHEL 8.5 was released earlier this week and RH have already said that CentOS 8.5 will be the last point release with maintenance contining until the end of this year. Nothing stops you from switching to Rocky/Alma/OEL prior to that though.
The future appears to be RHEL or Debian. I think I'm going Debian.
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Re: Last ever update (how to determine?)

Post by gerry666uk » 2021/11/13 16:46:21

OK, it sounds like update to 8.5 (soon) and then check carefully on 31/12/2021 to see if there are any outstanding updates.
I did some testing with Rocky, but right now it doesn't support secure boot.

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Re: Last ever update (how to determine?)

Post by jlehtone » 2021/11/14 12:37:32

Look at https://centos.org/centos-linux-eol/
will NOT be automatically migrating anyone to Stream

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Re: Last ever update (how to determine?)

Post by TrevorH » 2021/11/14 15:13:57

I did some testing with Rocky, but right now it doesn't support secure boot.
I don't have any inside info on Rocky but SB is quite a thing and needs sponsorship from Microsoft to be able to do. I have no idea if Rocky have plans for it nor how long they will take if they do. Maybe Alma already do so?
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Re: Last ever update (how to determine?)

Post by jlehtone » 2021/11/14 15:30:42

Alma does support SB already and Rocky has applied for SB, but the process is indeed quite a thing.

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Re: Last ever update (how to determine?)

Post by Mike_Rochefort » 2021/11/14 15:40:49

Alma has had SB support for some time now. Based on the recent updates of the shim request, I would expect Rocky 8.5 or 8.6 at the latest to have SB support.

https://github.com/rhboot/shim-review/i ... -967074440

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Re: Last ever update (how to determine?)

Post by gerry666uk » 2021/11/15 19:34:40

Regarding not being switched automatically, does that mean anyone who wants to switch to Stream will have to do somethng (like install new repos)?

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Re: Last ever update (how to determine?)

Post by Mike_Rochefort » 2021/11/15 20:00:50

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dnf swap centos-linux-repos centos-stream-repos
dnf distro-sync
reboot
https://www.centos.org/centos-stream/

I added the reboot as you will get a new kernel from Stream, and it's a good practice for a conversion such as this.

If you are also using EPEL, you can optionally dnf reinstall epel-release or just dnf install epel-next-release to get the CentOS Stream overlay repo.

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Re: Last ever update (how to determine?)

Post by jlehtone » 2021/11/15 20:09:42

Red Hat describes "to Stream" and "to RHEL" (although I did not spot the first easily) in: https://www.redhat.com/en/technologies/ ... -migration

AlmaLinux, Rocky Linux, and Oracle Linux have their "to our distro" scripts. Who else does? Overall, it should be quite easy.

If you want to play safe, then you have a "install from scratch" routine prepared. Even if you don't have need for it now, it is good to have for other disasters.

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